How an Apparel Business Gets Built | Trap Draw, Ep 366

Neil and TC roll through Upstate New York and sit down with Alex Holderness and John Bourne, the duo behind Holderness & Bourne. They dig into how these two branched off to start their own apparel line, swap war stories about early-days hustle, and draw some neat parallels to the NLU journey.

Instead of just dropping clips in their travel vid, they decided the chat was too good to trim—so here’s the full interview. Plus, you’ll catch plugs for the Evans Scholars Foundation, NLU’s sponsors, podcast and newsletter subs, and the perks of joining The Nest community.

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