How an Apparel Business Gets Built dives into a chat between Neil, TC, and Holderness & Bourne founders Alex Holderness and John Bourne during a road trip through Upstate New York. They unpack how they launched their parallel apparel brand, share stories of grit, growth, and the lessons that oddly mirror No Laying Up’s own journey. It’s the full, uncut convo you didn’t know you needed—no bite-sized clips here.
Alongside the main talk, the crew gives a nod to the Evans Scholars Foundation, thanks their sponsor ServPro, and reminds you to subscribe to the No Laying Up newsletter and podcast. If you’re really into this kind of deep dive, they also pitch The Nest—ad-light episodes, exclusive gear discounts, and that annual member gift for $90 a year.
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