Neil and TC head to Upstate New York for Trap Draw Ep. 366 to hang with Alex Holderness and John Bourne, the duo behind Holderness & Bourne. They dive into how the founders built their apparel brand from scratch, share the twists and turns of launching a side hustle, and draw parallels between this journey and No Laying Up’s own story.
The full interview drops here (no clips), and you’ll also hear how to back the Evans Scholars Foundation, catch our sponsor ServPro, subscribe to the No Laying Up newsletter and podcast, or join The Nest for exclusive content, light ad loads, and member perks.
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