Trap Draw, Ep 366 finds Neil and TC roaming Upstate New York and sitting down with Alex Holderness and John Bourne of Holderness & Bourne. In this full-length chat (originally meant as video clips), they trace their backgrounds, explain how they built an apparel brand alongside their day jobs, and reveal uncanny parallels with the No Laying Up story.
They also plug the Evans Scholars Foundation and invite listeners to subscribe to the No Laying Up newsletter and podcast. For the true fans, there’s The Nest—an annual $90 membership that keeps ads light and unlocks exclusive content, discounts and a special yearly gift.
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